Genhør: Def Cisum – dansk progressiv rock anno 1974
24. februar 2009
Det sønderborgbaserede band Def Cisum (navnet er en joke – Fed Music stavet bagfra…) er et af de bands, jeg husker ganske tydeligt fra præsentationen af deres debutplade fra 1974 i radioen. I min erindring var det et jazz-rock-album med swingende numre, der ledte tankerne hen på diverse jazz-orienterede big-bands, jazz-rock-fusionister som Chicago og også danske bands fra periode, fx Maxwells og Burning Red Ivanhoe. Bandet, der vist er blevet gendannet, bestod af sangskriver, forsanger og lead-guitarist Ronald Nielsen, guitarist, sanger og sangskriver Flemming Andersen, basist, sangskriver og forsanger Bent Rothe, trommeslageren Peter Kückelhahn, trompetisterne Peter Nielsen og Ole Knudsen – og på hhv. cornet og trombone Dan List-Jensen, “Rolf” og “Poul”. Dertil skal lægges backingvokaler af Don og Lissen.
Når man tænker på, hvor meget ragelse, der bliver genudgivet på cd, kan det godt undre, at sådan en plade ikke har fået en chance. Det er en vellykket dansk fusionsplade med lutter gode kompositioner og gode arrangementer.
24. februar 2009 kl. 19:18
Sorry, efter mine ringe ører og lytten til vinylen gentagne gange gennem Ã¥rene – lyder det pivfalsk.
Datidens bedste i samme stil var SMILE, der gav en super-koncert på Roskilde, men da Hørekiks-pladen udkom, var det uden brass-akompagnement og egt. noget bras.
Senere smuttede datidens lead-guitar-helt, Waldeier, til Norge og spillede pÃ¥ Waldhorn i et symfoniorkester…
25. februar 2009 kl. 00:42
@Gertrud: Hvem, hvad lyder pivfalsk?! Er det den samme plade, vi har hørt?
8. august 2009 kl. 23:57
Fandt lige omtalte plade pÃ¥ et loppemarked i dag – og den er bestemt mere værd, end den sølle tier jeg gav for den.
Efter min mening en spændende plade med spændende kompositioner fra en tid, hvor vi ellers mÃ¥tte lægge ører til en forfærdelig masse tre akkorders dansktopbras – men det var desværre mere salgbart anno 1974.
Jeg hører nu ogsÃ¥ et par mislyde i korarrangementet pÃ¥ “Scarlet kind of dream”. Men “pivfalsk” er nok en lidt hÃ¥rd generalisering. Mon ikke pladen kunne vinde meget ved en remastering?
9. august 2009 kl. 08:48
@kunst: Behøver en plade at være perfekt for at være god? Def Cisums plade kunne sikkert have vundet noget, hvis tid og penge havde tilladt det dengang. Men kan man lytte hen over svaghederne, så er det en fin plade.
13. august 2009 kl. 00:19
i cant find the download link i hope there is a download link whats the point of posting an album if no one can listen to it. thanks
13. august 2009 kl. 07:30
@beau: I don’t know of any links, where you can listen to the album. Sorry. I borrowed the LP at the local library.
11. oktober 2009 kl. 01:31
how good is this album. hey can i ask a favor could you please list the song titles and the lengths of the songs. that would be great
11. oktober 2009 kl. 11:35
@beau graham: I will see if I can find the titels and the lengths of the songs for you. The record is not a masterpiece, it’s not perfect, but a fine example of local danish jazz-fusion (Ã la early Chicago) though. By the Way, the Band still exists.
13. oktober 2009 kl. 21:57
right on thank you i dont expect a masterpiece thats fine blood, sweat and tears and chicago were the best horn rock bands. but there are other good horn rock bands and albums like gas mask, puzzle, moms apple pie im just hoping that a handful of songs are keepers. i appricate the response im after 10 or 11 rare horn rock albums that are nowhere to be found i wish i had a usb turntable. hey can you suggest some other danish or european bands with male vocals and horns im running out. thats cool the band still exsists its been 35 years since this album. i dont wanna take up your time but any recomendations for some more european horn rock would be great. thank you
13. oktober 2009 kl. 22:01
thats fine im not expecting a masterpiece i just hope a handful of song on the album are keepers. hey can you suggest any other european bands with horns/male vocals in english im running out i know there are more out there. anything you can suggest would be great. thank you
14. oktober 2009 kl. 11:52
@beau graham: I will see, what I can come up with. But as Gertrud mentions above the group Smile from Esbjerg was a fine example of the stile you’re looking for. Smile made one album (Smile, Hørekiks 1973) and two singles (fool’s love song/Right on, Metronome 1976 and House of the Rising Sun/Every Heartbeat, Metronome 1976). There were not many danish bands like Blood, Sweat and Tears and Chicago. If I find others that the two mentioned, I will let you know.
19. oktober 2009 kl. 21:13
hey i checked on that smile album not only could i not find a download link for it. i couldnt find any info on the band or the album at all. can you send me the album i would love to hear it. let me know thank you
20. oktober 2009 kl. 00:48
@beau: I forgot to mention, that the Smile album is rare – very rare. I’ve heard it, but don’t own it. And you can’t download it. The same goes for Def Cisum.
20. oktober 2009 kl. 01:05
there has to be a way to get it. i got someone that is gonna send me the def cisum album i contacted him online. now why do you say i cant download the smile album???
9. december 2009 kl. 03:43
any luck tracking down a copy of the def cisum album yet im still waiting for this guy to send it to me. he sent me three songs from the album i loved what i heard the singer has a good voice i cant detect an accent. let me know
9. december 2009 kl. 08:34
@beau graham: If you want to buf the Def Cisum, this second hand book- and recordshop has got one copy 450 danish kroner): http://24cd.sl.pt
10. december 2009 kl. 03:16
no thats ok i dont have a record player what i want is to download it but nobody is of any help. i dont like blogsites that dont have a download link. im sure a lot of people would love to hear this album. it needs to be posted thanks
10. december 2009 kl. 09:59
@beau graham: Sorry, I can’t help you with that.
26. marts 2010 kl. 08:44
Any luck finding a download link for this album yet???? its been months it seems silly to have an album to review without posting a link to listen to it doesent it i have heard two songs from this album and love them The vocalist Flemming Andersen has a great voice
26. marts 2010 kl. 09:41
@beau graham: My posts on Def Cisum was based on the vinyl record. A piece of nostalgia, because I heard the record, when I was young, and because the band came from the same part of Denmark, I came from. I understand your frustration, but can’t help you with downloads or soundclips, since the record has not been reissued digitally (one of the reason for me to mention the record i the first place, by the way…).
27. marts 2010 kl. 00:21
what a bummer well it should be reissued look at all the crap there is on cd
hey do you actually own a copy of the vinyl????
27. marts 2010 kl. 00:22
What a bummer well it should be reissued on cd Epic records should do something about that. Look at all the crap that is on cd hey do you actually own a copy of the vinyl?????
27. marts 2010 kl. 08:43
@beau graham: No, I don’t own a vinyl copy. I borrowed it from the local library. And, be the way, another reason for me to write about Def Cisum was to attract peoples interest to it. Maybe someone then will – like you – ask for it. And maybe someone from the recording business reads it as well…
Unfortunately a lot of fine danish recording from the sixties and seventies has never been released on cd. Another example is Cy, Maia & Robert genuine masterpiece Out Of Our Times.
But, if I find soundclips or other, I will surely let you know. Best Wishes capac
27. marts 2010 kl. 20:32
Wait a minute your local library still has record albums thats awesome i wish my library did. You raise a good point hopefully enough people do coment and maybe one day this album will be released hey. Hey what about a danish band called
Moirana-friends and lovers 1974 i like that one
have you also heard of CM Musictrain-1970 that is another album id love to hear
27. marts 2010 kl. 22:59
@beau graham: Well, Moirana is out on cd (look here: http://2o3a.sl.pt – http://www.karma.dk is a specialist in reissues of danish beat from the sixties and seventies). CM Musictrain is one of the collector’s items from the legendary Spectator Records (www.spectator-records.dk). Very few – if any – of this series has been reissued. Unfortunately. But I have written post on severel of the records. (Corrections: I’ve just read at the Spectator Records Site, that CM Musictrain has been reissued in Japan in 2008 – or was planned to be…)
26. juni 2010 kl. 22:27
http://www.discogs.com/Def-Cisum-Def-Cisum/release/2333090
http://clemensantikvariat.dk/music/search.php?letter=D&page=2
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mo-I-Rana?anv=Moirana